Part 7 - My Response to an Atheist Essay!

HERE ARE SOME COMMON COMMENTS FROM ALL ATHEIST’S CONTAINED IN HER ESSAY

“Most of us, given omnipotence, would be able to do a far better job than Jehovah. What would you do if given omnipotence?


{Does this not become obvious to her that she just made a dumb statement, ALL-powerful is something that in human experience HAS NEVER HAPPENED, so how could any Atheist know something about it never having experienced it them selves? IN EVERY CASE that power has been in the hands of men WITHOUT God's control THEY ALWAYS BECOME HITLER'S or worse!}

“God’s supposed infinite mercy is apparently the same thing as no mercy at all.

What makes this particularly unforgivable is that even Jesus’ own standards demand feeding of the poor. See Matthew 25:35, in which it is stated that the blessed feed the hungry, and that the damned do not. I find it funny that God is held blameless, though, for not feeding them.

Does not the old saying “practice what you preach” apply to God? 

Is his lack of action a hypocrisy or a sin? 

Could it perhaps be both?

In fact, it would be far easier for God to feed all the poor with his omnipotence, than for any mortal man to feed even one! Mankind is certainly not blameless here, but it is Jehovah who is the true villain.”


{Another misstatement since the World who says it can do better HASN'T and in fact uses the POOR to gain both power and money and these are Atheistic power structures that have ruled the world of their times with no God allowed!  The utter failures of Communistic and Socialistic governments proves that man cannot DO BETTER than God.


Debate: "Is the failure of socialism, as evinced by the recent partial return to capitalism, due to the fallacies of Marxian theory?" Affirmative: ... Sheridan, chairman. Held at the Manhattan 

Marxism and the Failure of Organised Socialism in Spain, 1879-1936 

The Failure of Modern Socialism; A Reply to Blatchford's Not Guilty 

Socialism : its promise and failure / by W. G. Towler and W. Ray 

Disaster in Red: The Failure and Collapse of Socialism 

Champions of Freedom: The Global Failure of Socialism (Champions of Freedom: The Ludwig Von Mises Lecture Series) 

Communism on the Decline the Failure of "Soviet Socialism" 

Grand Failure: The Birth and Death of Communism in the Twentieth Century 

Soviet Tragedy: A History of Socialism in Russia}

MOST OF THIS IS AT BEST AN ASSUMPTION “A Straw-man” OF WHAT GOD DOES BASED ON THE WORDING OF THE BIBLE IN CERTAIN PLACES IN THE NEW TESTAMENT…BUT LET US FOR A MOMENT LOOK AT THIS WITH THE BELIEF SYSTEM OF THE ATHEIST-

A. THERE IS NO GOD AND THERE NEVER HAS BEEN !

B. IF THERE IS NO GOD OR ANY GOD THEN THERE IS NO “WORD FROM GOD” IN ANY PLACE ON EARTH that can save it from non-existence. 

{ Stay with me here,THIS IS AN ATHEIST PARADISE I’M REVEALING HERE}

C. IF THERE ARE NO GODS, NO TRUE BIBLES AND WE ARE MERELY DELUDED INTO BELIEVING ALL THIS ….THEN LET’S LOOK AT THIS WITH PURE LOGIC, THE WORLD…THE UNIVERSE IS NOT IN THE HANDS OF A LOVING GOD, WE ARE DESCENDED FROM ANIMALS WITH ONLY EVOLVED INSTINCT TO SURVIVE WITH…THAT’S THE ATHEIST ALTERNATIVE TO GOD afterall.

1. IF THIS IS TRUE WHO DO YOU BLAME FOR ALL THE PROBLEMS in the World?

2. DO YOUR ARGUMENTS HOLD WATER IN YOUR WORLD ORDER OF THINGS without God to blame? After-all, now EVOLUTION must receive the only fair judgment upon itself for CAUSING the World's ills, or the only alternative would be a living God who has a PLAN FOR US ALL!

3. WHOSE FAULT ARE THE STARVING MILLIONS THEN if God is not there?

4. WHO CAUSES CANCER NOW if God is not there to blame? 

5. WHO CAUSES WARS, THAT HAVE KILLED MILLIONS NOW if God is not there to blame?

6.WHO OR WHAT GETS THE BLAME IF THERE IS AND NEVER WAS A GOD? You can rightly blame Religion as an affender but alas that INCLUDES Atheistic belief systems as well. The blame game is a losing game here, there's MORE than enough to go around!

I HOPE YOU CAN SEE THE PLAIN FOOLISHNESS OF THIS WOMAN’S ARGUMENTS BASED IN ONLY EMOTIONAL TOPICS LIKE HUNGER, WAR, MURDER.

The whole problem with what she is doing is made clear when the “SHOE IS ON THE OTHER FOOT.” You see..in order for atheist’s to attack us they must TAKE ALL THE WORLD’S WOE’S AND BLAME THEM ON GOD “

This is their Strawman ” TO DISTRACT FROM THE REAL ANSWER- Atheism causes all the things THEY BLAME GOD FOR, once they have removed God and gods from the picture! Be real here, the issues they blame God for are STILL PROBLEMS for Evolution without God or Religions gods.

And before someone out there says….

"Well, I just think that it is religion that has caused all this trouble in the world!”

If that is true then we are back at the same point we started at….WHERE AND HOW DID RELIGION BEGIN IF THERE NEVER WAS A GOD to start it?

A Layman's Guide to Why Are There So Many Christian Denominations?: Who started them? When? Why?

Saints Behaving Badly: The Cutthroats, Crooks, Trollops, Con Men, and Devil-Worshippers Who Became Saints

Soul Rape: Why People Hate Going to Church, Distrust Clergy, Avoid Religion, Keep Searching for God, and the Revolution They Started

How Fatima Started Islam: Mohammad's Daughter Tells It All

AFRICAN ORIGINS OF FREEMASONRY: Treatise of the Ancient Grand Lodge of Khamet

The ACLU vs. America: Exposing the Agenda to Redefine Moral Values

Babylon Mystery Religion, Ancient and Modern

The Secret Side of History; Mystery Babylon and the New World Order

The Two Babylons

The Babylon Connection?

Mystery Babylon (What the Bible Says)

Saddam's Mystery Babylon: Revealing the Hidden Agenda of the Most Sinister Entity in the Bible



Where did the idea of a “ONE True God” come from without any knowledge of Him? If we started out as Atheist’s in the beginning of time how did any knowledge of God get here!

This cannot be DISMISSED, YOU HAVE ONLY TWO CHOICES

- IT’S God’s fault and he exists after all,

OR

IT’S THE “UTOPIA OF MEN’S” FAULT AND GOD CANNOT BE BLAMED, BUT IN DISPROVING THE ONE YOU MUST ADMIT TO THE OTHER!

Talk about “Painting yourself into a corner!” MY POINT IS A GOOD ONE..IF ATHEIST’S USE THE BIBLE AGAINST GOD THEY ARE “CONCEDING” THAT HIS WORD IS TO BE OBEYED AND THEREFORE THAT HE EXISTS SO HE CAN BE BLAMED FOR ALL OUR PROBLEMS! Why can't an Atheist prove there is no God without using the Bible to do it? The answer is simple, they know the Bible contains the proof they seek so they must 'Muddy the Water' to hide the evidence from their followers plain sight!

But if they truly believe what they teach, that there is and CAN BE NO GOD CONTROLLING ALL THINGS……THEN THEY ARE LEFT WITH A DILEMMA – WHO TO BLAME FOR ALL MAN’S SCREW UP’S…THINK THEY WILL BLAME THEMSELVES?

I know they won’t!

I think the thing that STANDS OUT as the biggest DOUBLE STANDARD is the Atheist using THE BIBLE to disprove a NON-EXISTENT GOD and then turning around in the same essay and saying this:

“Suppose you were an omnipotent god, and you demand worship, such as the Christian God. 

Would you give proof of your existence to those who wished to follow you? I imagine for Jehovah that it would be quite simple to perform a continual sequence of verifiable miracles. It would be quite logical in practice too, for it would keep God’s followers from delusion and doubt. 



Personal Stories, Healing & Miracles

{ Its interesting that this women says she's read the bible, but missed the hundreds of times God did just that and they worshiped the Miracle instead of God....why is that? Because as Romans plainly states, 'they were constantly gaining knowledge about God but did not use that knowledge to gain WISDOM and thus increase their reasoning abilities.'}

There is no such luck with Jehovah though. He demands absolute fidelity without any demonstration of his existence. The only so called record of his existence is the bible. I think it pretty much goes with out saying that not only is the bible 2,000 years out dated, but it is also very unoriginal. 

{ IF this stupid comment were even the least bit true, there would be NO REASON for any debate from now on, but the truth is far different than the delusion she rants about emotionally here. She knows, as all Atheists know; that the Bible has SO MUCH EVIDENCE in its support from Science, Archeology and Literary Documentation that they have simply resorted to insult rather than debate the facts is a CLEAR issue!}

Any Christian who proposes that the bible is indeed evidence for God’s existence is proposing a double standard. For there are many books which claim to be actual accounts of a higher power. 

With this in mind, why not believe in Allah from the Koran? 

Could it be because your faith is what determines your belief and not your so called “factual” book?”

THIS IS THE SILLIEST ARGUMENT FOR AN ATHEIST TO MAKE….NOT ONLY DOES SHE HAVE ALL..NOT JUST SOME , BUT ALL HER FACTS MISPLACED! 

But the statement 'the bible is THE PROOF of God in written form' is a provable thing IF ONE IS TOTALLY HONEST with the facts and not covering their exposed false religion or philosophy! The Koran on the other hand is NOT the word of God and not a literary giant by any means as no other religious book is!

The Complete Infidel's Guide to the Koran

The Qur'an Translation

Is the Qur'an the Word of God?

Is The Qur'an God's Word? - A Scientific Approach

Is The Bible God's Word

God Almighty Speaks to You

You see within the seed of Faith given to each believer is ALL the proof of God needed to get saved. BUT you must first believe to release that proof to your soul! Thus Reason is needed to have Faith Work.

In the fist place, let’s give her the benefit of MUCH doubt. Let’s say she’s right, the bible is NOT the word of God..there is no God and no gods at all anywhere and without asking HOW IN A GODLESS WORLD MEN THOUGHT UP RELIGIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE?{ Oooppps! I asked!} 

Where does her questioning take her?

I’ll tell YOU to my NEW CHALLENGE TO ATHEIST’S, WHICH IS THIS: And this is a very valid point! 

Since there IS NO GOD AND RELIGION IS MAN-MADE, THE BIBLE INCLUDED- HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE UNIVERSAL PROBLEMS YOU BLAME ON GOD SO EMOTIONALLY TO PROVE GOD IS INCOMPETENT-DOESN’T THAT MEAN THAT IF THERE NEVER WAS A GOD TO BLAME….

 ATHEIST’S WERE IN CHARGE ALL ALONG WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPENED, IN FACT YOUR STILL IN CHARGE SO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT......stop the wars, stop the poverty, stop the sin loose in the world today.....DO IT, OR GET OUT OF THE WAY! 

So much for the Atheist Answer and Utopia, if you can't do HIS job stop stating you can, you don't have the answers by using a system of belief that CAUSES more troubles in the world than it solves!

Scientific Proof of the Scriptures

Who Says the Bible Is God's Word? (Solid Proof the Bible Came from God) (3 DVD's)

Excavating the Bible - Marine Archeology: Tel Hazor: Searching for Biblical Proofs [VHS]

THE PROOF that God exists and the Bible is true

Startling Proofs 

10 Conclusive Proofs That God Exists And The Bible Is True 

Bible Proofs: A Fireside Aid for Teaching Christians 

Evidence for God: 50 Arguments for Faith from the Bible, History, Philosophy, and Science 

The Exodus Revealed: Searching for the Red Sea Crossing 

The Signature of God, Revised Edition: Conclusive Proof That Every Teaching, Every Command, Every Promise in the Bible Is True 

A land born in a day;: Or, Irrefutable proof that the Holy Bible is the inspired word of God and offers the only way to eternal life 

The Angular Theory Of Numbers And Bible Proofs Thereof 

Proof: The Evidence for the Christian Faith 

The Case for Christ 

The closer you look, the greater the book: Bible proofs 

Part 6 - My Response to an Atheist Essay! God's Character Defended!

She states about Hell

“However, you don’t have to hurt anyone to get into Hell. All it takes, according to Scripture, is knowing about Jesus and not accepting him as Savior. It doesn’t matter how virtuous you are, how much good you do, how happy an environment you create for others. Given this, the voluntary entry argument doesn’t make sense. 

The same argument could be used to justify the sending of Aryan opponents of Nazism to concentration camps: they voluntarily chose not to give homage to Hitler, so they chose to be interred.  

Why should we blame the Nazis for the inmates’ choice?

Why should we blame God for the choice of the damned?”
  

 Oops, not so fast with that approval clapping........

Of course the FACT that the Jews DID NOT CHOOSE TO BE INTERNED OR TO DIE DOES NOT ENTER HER MIND WHEN MAKING THIS POINTLESS POINT!

Another Technical Foul


 The major difference here is that the Jews were in no way meant to pay homage to Hitler, from the beginning they were to die, his plan was extermination not worship so the analogy is silly at best!

DID THEY GET WHAT THEY WANTED?


 YOU WILL NOTICE HER CHOICE OF AN ANALOGY, SHE EQUATES GOD’S PERFECTLY JUST BALANCES WITH A “CONCENTRATION CAMP and THE SOLDIERS OF HITLER”.

Why? She's building a Straw-man to knock over with common sense!

Because this invokes the worst of memories and causes the mind to attach this horror to what God did concerning Salvation, more to the fine point, HOW SALVATION WORKS. Once you accept this analogy, you have attached a false premise and a sick picture of God all in one!

This argument against the most perfectly JUST and EQUAL PLAN OF SALVATION COULD ONLY COME FROM SATAN HIMSELF! It is an unfair comparison in the least and of no real debate value!

A false conclusion that God is unjust for His actions is what began the birth process of atheism, in Satan's heart n the beginning. Satan at the moment he fell into pride was usurping his lower place in creation and assuming that the God of greater power didn't exist in his heart, that's the true definition of what an Atheist has done!


It is very important to keep that fact in mind.

A conclusion that the Almighty Righteous God is unjust or wrong for any of His actions cannot be arrived at except through the total depravity of those who draw such a conclusion, assuming that God is subject to human frailty and decision making. When the truth is that God's decisions are above reproach.

So in order to understand how atheism had it’s origin, It is crucial to realize that the total depravity of the nature of Satan is the key principle that underlies the origin of atheism.

Satan has CORRUPTED MORAL PRINCIPLES, AND IS DEVOID OF GOOD IN ANY FORM- THEREFORE “HE” IS THE BEGINNING OF THOSE WHO ATTEMPT TO DEFY GOD’S CHARACTER!

Even though the conclusion that God is unjust is a high error and was known as such by Satan, his total depravity nevertheless made it impossible for him to conclude otherwise, when we see God through man's failures GOD LOSES the character battle.

Depravity directs the hearts of its graceless subjects against God even though they know better. This is because of the very diametrical opposition of depravity to God and His Law. 

The nature of both human and demonic depravity is an unvarying and uncompromising principle that works apart from what its subjects know and remains opposed to God at all times despite God’s actions and despite their knowledge that it is impossible for God to be wrong.

The negative expressions of God toward the existence and outworking of the depraved natures of humans and demons is always right, whereas the negative expressions and opposition of the depraved natures of humans and demons toward God are always wrong. 

The very antithetical nature of the depravity of graceless humans and demons invariably enslaves them to react negatively to God regardless of what God does. Therefore, their depravity reacts negatively to God, despite the fact that God can never do evil and despite the fact that He is always perfectly innocent.

Here lies also the origin of insanity, WHICH MEANS TO BE TRAPPED IN A CYCLE OF DOING THE SAME THING OVER and OVER AGAIN EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT. Atheists use the same lame reasoning against God over and over with the same results, but never see the circular reasoning as wrong.

In order for Satan to have endeavored to judge God, there had to be in place some type of opinion, philosophy, religion, charter or law by which he used to try to judge God.

But God is not subject to anything. Nothing exists whatsoever that God is subject to or responsible to obey except his own word. 

THIS REMINDS ME OF THE FUNNIEST ARGUMENT AGAINST GOD BEING GOD, I HAVE EVER HEARD.

“Who created God? 

A super God, and who created the super God?

A super,super God?

AS IF THIS WAS A SERIOUS BLOW, TO GIVE THE “I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I? “DEFENSE! 

God is not subject, SITUATED OR PLACED UNDER HIS OWN LAW even to the most noble law in the universe – the TEN COMMANDMENTS- which He made for mankind, nor to any law made for the angels. He is above all laws and does only His own will staying in perfect alignment with his word.

Why?

If this were true that ANYTHING IS ABOVE GOD, GOD CEASES TO BE GOD- THEREFORE THERE IS NO GOD AURGUMENT!

GOD’S LAW IS A REFLECTION OF HIS PERSONAL MORAL CHARACTER, GOD has Moral sense, an innate or natural sense of right and wrong; an instinctive perception of what is right or wrong in moral conduct, which approves some actions and disapproves others. This is HOW God intended Adam and Eve to find our about sin and NOT by experiencing it first hand!

God’s WILL IN THE UNIVERSE ALWAYS FOLLOWS HIS LAW, BUT BECAUSE WE ARE “FINITE IN UNDERSTANDING” WE DO NOT HAVE THE BIG PICTURE AS HE DOES SO WE “MISUNDERSTAND” HIS CHOICES IN CONNECTION WITH HIS LAW BECAUSE WE ONLY SEE IN PART AND KNOW IN PART.

So there is no law He can possibly violate by any of His actions. Therefore, He cannot be rightly judged to be wrong in any action He performs.

I can hear the Atheist now, “What? so God is not held to his law”? NO THAT’S NOT QUITE WHAT I MEAN BY THIS, YOU SEE..GOD IS THE MOST ADVANCED MORAL PERSON EVER TO BE, SO HE HOLDS HIMSELF TO HIS OWN STANDARDS BECAUSE HE IS THE SOURCE OF ALL MORALITY.

An example of this is found in 

Heb 6:13

“For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he swore by himself,…….

Heb 6:16

“For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife.”

Heb 6:17

“Wherein God, willing more abundantly to show unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath:”

Heb 6:18 

“That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us”

God is the LAW, THAT ALL LAWS PROCEED FROM.

The only choices Satan had by which to seek to judge God were in some form of his own depravity – Either choice would be the evil one attempting to judge the Righteous One – evil trying to condemn the righteousness as being evil – an impossibility and absolute deception.

But he probably chose the latter so as to make God deceptively appear wrong by His own Law. Again, an impossibility and absolute deception. This was the actual deceptive and utterly foolish birth of atheism. Atheism didn’t receive its origin by a true absence of proof of God’s existence, because there has always been and always will be overwhelming proof to the contrary, it came from viewing God's character from a depraved heart.

Atheism had its origin by the expression of Satan’s depravity toward God, and it is embraced, maintained and perpetuated among graceless humans as a result of their total depravity. In other words, atheists follow in the footsteps of their master, the devil WHOM THEY DENY.

Now I will deal with the silliness of attacking salvation’s “ENTRANCE FEE! 

She said ONE TRUTH HERE THAT NEEDS REPEATING:

“All it takes, according to Scripture, is knowing about Jesus and not accepting him as Savior.” 

This is absolutely TRUE EXCEPT FOR THE KNOWING PART; IT’S INTIMATE PERSONAL INTERACTION OR NOTHING WITH GOD, the ONLY thing standing between you and hell is JESUS!

THAT’S HOW GOD PLANED IT AND IT IS THE SINGLE MOST FAIR WAY THAT HAS EVER BEEN DEVISED TO REDEEM MANKIND FROM HIMSELF AND SIN!

PLEASE, THINK FOR A MOMENT HERE…HOW COULD IT EVER BE FAIR TO JUDGE MAN ANY OTHER WAY?

 

John 3:14-21 SAYS:

“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. “

{ Did you hear that, NO PERSONAL SIN SENDS YOU TO HELL- ONLY NOT RECEIVING JESUS IN YOUR LIFE, it cannot get any simpler than this yet Atheists seem to think its not that simple, it must be harder some how! }

“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men { Atheist’s} loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”

Now why is this such a sticking point to the Atheist?

In their thinking it is UNJUST TO SEND US TO TORMENT BECAUSE OF A PERSONAL CHOICE IN LIFE AND THAT WOULD MAKE ALL THE FUSS OVER SINS THAT WE COMMIT AGAINST GOD- DISPROVED!

SO THAT WE CAN DO AS WE PLEASE WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES!

That is a FALSE CONCLUSION, SALVATION’S ENTRANCE FEE IS FAITH IN HIS SON [ THE DOOR] BUT PERSONAL SIN “STORES UP WRATH”AGAINST THAT DAY OF JUDGMENT, WHEN GOD WILL JUDGE THE WORKS OF MEN TO DETERMINE THEIR “AMOUNT OF TORMENT WHICH THEY NOT HE HAS STORED UP TO THEMSELVES FOR ETERNITY! 

This is an equitable judgment, for you are NEVER PUNISHED BEYOND YOUR OWN CHOICE- IN LIFE OR IN DEATH! Its simple and Just no matter how men misapply it to life lived in sin.

If the entrance to heaven were by virtue of PERSONAL RIGHTEOUSNESS, NO ONE COULD EVER BE GOOD ENOUGH TO GET IN….AND IF THE ENTRANCE TO HELL WERE SIMPLY BASED ON PERSONAL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS NO ONE COULD EVER AVOID GOING THERE, BUT GOD MADE IT SIMPLE TO AVOID HELL AND SIMPLE TO GO TO HEAVEN- whay more do you want?

Atheist’s SIMPLY DON’T LIKE THE CHOICES so they wish to create a THIRD OPTION TO PARADISE: EAT OR BE EATEN AND NOT EVERYONE CAN MAKE IT! Evolutionary salvation is one of the most unjust and unfair ways to get ahead in life that could ever have been devised by man, but yet they accuse God of the terrible crime when its their hearts that block the way and not God!

THEIR PARADISE IS 'THE LAW OF THE JUNGLE' WHERE THE WEAK ARE FOOD FOR THE STRONG!

BUT I ASK YOU, WHAT DO ANIMALS NEED WITH LOGIC IN A WORLD LIKE THAT?

GOD HAS ALWAYS HAD THE BETTER PLAN, BUT SATAN WILL NOT ALLOW MEN TO PLAINLY SEE IT.

God and Design: The Teleological Argument and Modern Science

Does God Exist?: The Debate Between Theists & Atheists

Answers for Atheists, Agnostics, and Other Thoughtful Skeptics: Dialogs About Christian Faith and Life

The God Debates: A 21st Century Guide for Atheists and Believers (and Everyone in Between)

Letter to an Atheist Nation: Presupositional Apologetics Responds To: Letter to a Christian

Hume's Abject Failure: The Argument Against Miracles