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Wednesday, February 9, 2011

Part 1: Skeptical Questioning of the skeptical mind Answered!

Skeptical Question # 1

“DID AN ALL-POWERFUL GOD CREATE EVIL?”

What about Human suffering?

This Question is one of the MOST COMMON Questions posed to Christians and is one of the EASIEST TO REFUTE of all misrepresented thoughts of atheist’s around the world!

HERE IS HOW THE QUESTION IS STATED from an Atheist mind!:

“God Is The Creator Of Evil:

I am frustrated at two specific verses in the bible, which applies to this particular topic. The first is the biblical statement that “God is the Alpha and the Omega”. 

Loosely defined it means the beginning and the end, the all knowing. Which of course implies that all of his actions and the results are fore known to him.

I have a real problem with this notion. 

For if God was to know ahead of time that someday he would send me to hell for being an Atheist, I ask what was the purpose in him creating me in the first place?

Was it simply to watch me be tortured?

That seems to be the most logical explanation. I can think of no other rational explanation, neither has any Christian who I posed this question to.

Some people have attempted to tell me that God has a purpose unknown to us, and that we must simply accept his will.

Would you keep a friend who commits evil and offers no self-justification or remorse?

Of course not, so why is this same judgment not applied to God?

It’s seems rather contradictory that this trait is despised in humanity, yet, it is worshiped in religion.

Secondly, I want to reinforce the fact that God is indeed the creator of evil.
Please read Isaiah 45:7.

“I form the light and create darkness. I make peace and create evil. I the lord do all these things”. 


The Christian God outright claims that he is indeed the source of evil. So how can he then claim to be sinless?

To be more specific, let’s talk about the lord’s creation of evil, let’s talk about the conception of Satan.

This being was created and unleashed by God. 

Jehovah knew (for he is the all knowing) that at the time of Lucifer’s creation he would eventually become Satan, and spend his existence reeking havoc on man kind.

Leading people into criminal activities. Suppose I were to build an evil robot, that I knew would go around torturing and murdering people.

Whose fault would it be if I let it loose? Mine or the robot’s? Of course it would be mine, for I created it with that purpose and unleashed it for that purpose. 

Now I ask you, whose fault is deviltry in the world? Is it the PUPPET Satan or the being that deliberately created Satan’s evil?

{ This might be a good one if the BIBLE did not make clear that GOD MADE LUCIFER THE LIGHT BEARER IN CHARGE OF WORSHIP BEFORE GOD’S THRONE- NOT SATAN THE DECEIVER CAST FROM THE THRONE OF GOD, HE BECAME SATAN OR CHANGED HIS STATUS AFTER HIS REBELLION FAILED, THIS MISCONCEPTION IS WHAT THE ARGUMENT IS BUILT UPON!}


Now God Plays Switch-A-Roo And Humans Are The Creators Of Evil Not only does the bible imply, but so do many Christians, that we as a people are the creator of evil.
It is clear for reading the bible that this is untrue,

{ NOW WHICH IS IT ?
DOES THE BIBLE IMPLY OR DOES IT TEACH SOMETHING ELSE?}


but the speculation still remains. Supposedly, when Adam and Eve fell from grace, they single-handedly brought evil into the world.

All you have to do is think logically for a moment, and you will obviously see something is very unjust with this concept. Could any rational being hold a starving infant in Ethiopia responsible for the actions of two long dead people?

{ FIRST OF ALL BABIES ARE NOT HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANY SIN UNTIL THEY KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG BUT ALL MANKIND SUFFERS FROM THE RIPPLE EFFECT OF THE SIN OF ADAM THROUGHOUT TIME!


It is our personal sin that we are held in contempt for BUT it is the effects of the Original sin of disobedience that pollutes our D.N.A. with like actions as those of Adam and Eve.}


Or perhaps, would you find it fair to be convicted of Jack the Ripper’s crimes?
The connection in both of these instances are not only ludicrous but, disgusting to nod your head at. People who use this argument are simply attempting to rationalize sadism.

{ NO THIS IS A WRONG ASSERTION, ADAM & EVE’S SIN WAS THE UNIVERSAL CRIME OF SATAN- REBELLION, AND NO ONE’S REBELLION IS GREATER OR LESSER TO GOD SO WE ARE ON EQUAL GROUND FOR PUNISHMENT.
BUT PERSONAL SINS CAN BE GREATER FOR SOME THAN FOR OTHERS, THIS IS WHY HELL WILL BE WORSE FOR SOME THAN OTHERS, THEIR MENTAL AND PHYSICAL TORMENT GREATER THAT SOMEONE WHO DID NOT SIN AS MUCH BUT STILL REJECTED JESUS- THE WAY OUT!}


I must declare that a Christian that walks into a children’s ward and insists that it is correct that children suffer as a result of the original sin, must destroy themselves of all compassion and mercy.

{ WHY?

THIS IS LIKE SAYING THAT ALL EVOLUTIONISTS WHO WALK INTO A CHILDREN’S WARD AND BELIEVE THAT IT’S JUST A MATTER OF “SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST AT WORK!” 

IS IT NOT?

It would be no better under this evil evolutionary system of “Survival of the Fittest” to look at the suffering of mankind and think “Well that’s the way of the world. For those that are weakest should die so that those who are strongest can live….Ohhh Well..so sad! 

This is an example of using our emotional responses to make us hate a scape-goat God instead of looking at the facts logically }

I insist that those who worship the lord

{ OR WHO BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION}

knowing this hypocrisy must be as cruel as the Christian God

{ OR as EVOLUTION}

he/she believes in.

A complete and utter moral degenerate, taking stabs at protecting their belief system. A person as such would just as easily worship Satan

{ OR as NATURAL SELECTION is worshiped as flawless even in the face of radical flaws.}

as God in their blindness and faith. For apparently, no amount of evidence could convince him that God

{ OR EVOLUTION}

was bad once they decided to worship him

{OR THEIR CONCEPT OF NATURE being the be all end all.}

; their basic assumption is that they are correct, which makes them untouchable by any amount of rationality.”

And that’s NOT the basic assumption of the Atheist?

Wow talk about double speak on a major scale. This ENTIRE RANT can be as it was here turned around on them with the SAME EFFECT!

I WISH NOW TO TAKE HER MISINFORMED QUESTIONS APART INDIVIDUALLY, SO AS TO TAKE AWAY ANY REBUTTALS!
What about Isaiah 45:7

” I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”

A HISTORY LESSON TO PUT THIS VERSE IN CONTEXT:

It was the great principle of the Magian religion, which prevailed in Persia in the time of Cyrus, and in which probably he was educated, that there are two supreme, co-eternal, and independent causes always acting in opposition one to the other; one the author of all good, the other of all evil. 

The good being they called Light; the evil being, Darkness.
That when Light had the ascendant, then good and happiness prevailed among men; when Darkness had the superiority, then EVIL and misery abounded.
This was the world of Isaiah….

But it was an opinion that contradicts the clearest evidence of our reason, which plainly leads us to the acknowledgment of one only Supreme Being, infinitely good as well as powerful.
With reference to this absurd opinion, held by the person to whom this prophecy is addressed, God, by his prophet, in the most significant terms, asserts his omnipotence and absolute supremacy OVER EVIL & GOOD!

That he is Lord of all, and there is nothing done without him ” I form the light, which is grateful and pleasing, and I create darkness, which is grievous and unpleasing.
I make peace

(put here for all good)

and I create evil , not the evil of sin that Satan and man accepted by their own wills.

(God is not the author of the sin that he hates)

, but the evil of punishment for sin. Please note here that this punishment is NOT AN “EVIL”IN THE SENSE OF TORTURE BUT OF AN EQUALITY OF JUDGMENT TO THE COMMISSION OF SIN BY MEN, WHICH THEY CONSIDER A BAD THING. 

This must be done by God in order for the ORDER OF THE UNIVERSE to be upheld, THIS IS THE EXACT SAME PRINCIPLE DICTATED BY DARWIN IN EVOLUTION IN THE SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST DOCTRINE- IN ORDER FOR COMPLETE BALANCE IN THE ORDER OF THINGS:
 
EVERY LIFE-FORM DIES TO PRODUCE FOOD FOR EVERY OTHER LIFE-FORM, THERE ARE REACTIONS FOR EVERY ACTION COMMITTED-

A BALANCE IS KEPT! This follows all PAGAN religions to the letter!
 
The Bible view is radically different from all other “Religions in the world”: 

suffering is not evil in itself, but a symptom of a deeper evil.

The Scriptures portray suffering as a consequence of sin: not necessarily the sin of the individual who suffers, but sin in the history of man and in human society. 

Because the first sin spread throughout the D.N.A of history infecting more and more, deeper and deeper into the fiber and nature of society.
 
As stated before we suffer in our individual lives as a RESULT OF BAD CHOICES WE MAKE IN LIFE, AND WE ARE BLESSED BY GOOD CHOICES WE MAKE IN LIFE:
SAINT OR SINNER ALIKE!

BUT as far as the NEXT LIFE, ONLY ONE CHOICE MEANS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ETERNITY WITH OR WITHOUT GOD:

We can choose to follow Jesus into the next or choose to go along with the crowd into a HELL of OUR CREATION for eternity- God made the place called Hell for Satan and his angels to be kept in chains of darkness forever BUT because of choosing to FOLLOW SATAN and his EXAMPLE OF REBELLION WE MUST GO WHERE WE WILL BE AT HOME.

AWAY FROM GOD FOREVER SUFFERING THE “TORMENTS OF OUR OWN MINDS REGRET AND THE PHYSICAL RESULTS OF THAT MENTAL BREAKDOWN FOREVER.

” Should People be Saved from Themselves?

Taking such facts as these into account, it must be asked, What is it we are really doing when we require God to remove suffering? Are we not asking that God should

(a) suspend natural law, 

(b) divert the consequences of heredity, and

(c) turn aside the effects of man’s inhumanity to man?


Have we the right to expect God to save men from the consequences of human acts?
Would it be a moral universe if He did this?
Better ye, what would happen to your family if YOU made their choices FOR THEM to keep them right where you wanted them forever…NO FREE WILL, NO CHOICE?
At some point RESPONCIPBILITY must over rule having someone else getting me out of trouble all the time….don’t you think?

This is the most selfish act of men to require a God to REVERSE WHAT HE DID TO CHANGE THINGS SO HE WILL NOT SUFFER FOR HIS STUPIDITY!
These questions can only be asked of situations when the hand of man is involved.
Earthquakes, tempests, famine and floods are called ‘acts of God’ because usually there is no other explanation for their occurrence OTHER THAN natural, although the Bible clearly states that Satan is their underlying director for HE IS THE GOD OF THIS EVIL WORLD SYSTEM and uses whatever he can to Kill, steal, and destroy.

So if we look beyond human acts to natural disaster, we find that it falls upon all, innocent and guilty alike. As soon as we begin to question the suffering of innocent victims of these disasters another dilemma is raised. Are we saying that the calamities should be selective in their working, searching out only those who deserve to suffer’?

Man lives in a universe of cause and effect and the consequences of certain causes are inescapable.

Fire burns, water drowns, disease germs destroy.

These facts have moral implications.

Men live in a universe in which the consequences of what they do are inescapable, and therefore their responsibility for what they do is equally inescapable.

Without this burden of ‘natural law’ man could do as he liked with impunity, and there would be no responsibility.

God made the universe this way because He is a moral God who makes men responsible beings with a will to choose how they will act. But keep in mind that there is a tempter out there trying to get you to CHOOSE to KILL, STEAL AND DESTROY YOUR FELLOW MAN AND YOURSELF!

Man’s neglect and misuse of his own life has corrupted the stream of human life itself, and left evils which fall on succeeding generations. These, again as part of natural law, may manifest themselves as hereditary weaknesses and tendencies to disease. The very stuff of life may be affected as it is passed on from generation to generation.
The consequences of man’s acts are not only directly physical.

The social and political evils which they have created throughout history have left a gathering burden on the generations following AND IT IS HIGH IRRESPONSIBILITY TO BLAME GOD FOR OUR DECISIONS.

People today are caught in a net of the consequences of past history, and even when they try to right one evil, another is brought to bear:

“The whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now” (Romans 8:22).

THERE IS NO WAY LOGICALLY AROUND THIS, EVEN EVOLUTION TEACHES THIS SAME PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE & EFFECT EVEN IF GOD WERE OUT OF THIS ALTOGETHER-

THE UNIVERSE WOULD STILL OPERATE THE SAME, SUFFERING WOULD STILL EXIST, BUT ON AN EVEN HIGHER SCALE WITHOUT A LOVING GOD TO INTERVENE AND COMFORT THOSE WHO SUFFER!

The very laws of our universe dictate to us that it is WINDING DOWN TO AN ULTIMATE SELF DESTRUCTION AT SOME POINT-

I COULD WRITE A LONG, LONG ESSAY IN THE SAME WORDS, TAKING OUT GOD AND REPLACING IT WITH “NATURAL SELECTION” & “EVOLUTIONARY THEORY” and BLAME IT FOR MY WOES AND CRY ABOUT HOW UNFAIR IT IS FOR ME AND YOU TO BE PLACED IN A UNIVERSE THAT IS SELF DESTRUCTING.

How fair is it for evolution to dictate that I HAVE TO BE IN TIP TOP SHAPE TO SURVIVE IN A CRUEL WORLD WITHOUT HOPE OF OVERCOMING THE FITTEST AMONG US?

Where is the loving compassion of “Natural Selection” when a baby that cannot defend itself is RAPED by as adult who is fitter to survive?

I ASK YOU MR.& MS. ATHEIST,SKEPTIC- DOES YOUR PLAN ANSWER THESE SAME ACCUSING QUESTION BETTER? WHAT IS YOUR END GAME?

“For if God was to know ahead of time that someday he would send me to hell for being an Atheist, I ask what was the purpose in him creating me in the first place?
Was it simply to watch me be tortured?

” NO MY FRIEND, AS USUAL YOUR COMPLETELY MISSING YOUR OWN POINT, GOD MADE US ALL TO DO ONE THING TO LOVE AND TO BE LOVED BY HIM.
Sure in God’s FOREKNOWLEDGE

{UNDERSTANDING GOD’S FOREKNOWLEDGE! }

HE KNEW HOW YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO LIVE YOUR LIFE, AND BECAUSE HE RESPECTS YOUR CHOICE IN THIS MATTER HE’LL LET GO TO “YOUR PRIVATE HELL FOREVER” NEVER INTERFERING OR CHANGING YOUR MIND IF THAT’S WHAT YOU WANT- 

BUT HE WILL NOT LET YOU GO WITHOUT WARNING YOU TO REASON WITH HIM FIRST-

Isa 1:18-19

“Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:”


Other great answers to the Question of Evil in the world to follow!

 

Confessions of an Adulterous Christian Woman: Lies That Got Me There; Truths That Brought Me Back 

From Pride to Humility: A Biblical Perspective 

Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God 

Divine Sovereignty and Human Responsibility: Biblical Perspective in Tension 

God's Unfaithful Wife: A Biblical Theology of Spiritual Adultery (New Studies in Biblical Theology) 

On Law, Morality, and Politics 

Exploring Christian Ethics: Biblical Foundations for Morality 

True Sexual Morality: Recovering Biblical Standards for a Culture in Crisis