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Monday, February 28, 2011

Part 7 - My Response to an Atheist Essay!

HERE ARE SOME COMMON COMMENTS FROM ALL ATHEIST’S CONTAINED IN HER ESSAY

“Most of us, given omnipotence, would be able to do a far better job than Jehovah. What would you do if given omnipotence?


{Does this not become obvious to her that she just made a dumb statement, ALL-powerful is something that in human experience HAS NEVER HAPPENED, so how could any Atheist know something about it never having experienced it them selves? IN EVERY CASE that power has been in the hands of men WITHOUT God's control THEY ALWAYS BECOME HITLER'S or worse!}

“God’s supposed infinite mercy is apparently the same thing as no mercy at all.

What makes this particularly unforgivable is that even Jesus’ own standards demand feeding of the poor. See Matthew 25:35, in which it is stated that the blessed feed the hungry, and that the damned do not. I find it funny that God is held blameless, though, for not feeding them.


Does not the old saying “practice what you preach” apply to God? 

Is his lack of action a hypocrisy or a sin? 

Could it perhaps be both?

In fact, it would be far easier for God to feed all the poor with his omnipotence, than for any mortal man to feed even one! Mankind is certainly not blameless here, but it is Jehovah who is the true villain.”


{Another misstatement since the World who says it can do better HASN'T and in fact uses the POOR to gain both power and money and these are Atheistic power structures that have ruled the world of their times with no God allowed!  The utter failures of Communistic and Socialistic governments proves that man cannot DO BETTER than God.


Debate: "Is the failure of socialism, as evinced by the recent partial return to capitalism, due to the fallacies of Marxian theory?" Affirmative: ... Sheridan, chairman. Held at the Manhattan 

Marxism and the Failure of Organised Socialism in Spain, 1879-1936 

The Failure of Modern Socialism; A Reply to Blatchford's Not Guilty 

Socialism : its promise and failure / by W. G. Towler and W. Ray 

Disaster in Red: The Failure and Collapse of Socialism 

Champions of Freedom: The Global Failure of Socialism (Champions of Freedom: The Ludwig Von Mises Lecture Series) 

Communism on the Decline the Failure of "Soviet Socialism" 

Grand Failure: The Birth and Death of Communism in the Twentieth Century 

Soviet Tragedy: A History of Socialism in Russia}

MOST OF THIS IS AT BEST AN ASSUMPTION “A Straw-man” OF WHAT GOD DOES BASED ON THE WORDING OF THE BIBLE IN CERTAIN PLACES IN THE NEW TESTAMENT…BUT LET US FOR A MOMENT LOOK AT THIS WITH THE BELIEF SYSTEM OF THE ATHEIST-

A. THERE IS NO GOD AND THERE NEVER HAS BEEN !

B. IF THERE IS NO GOD OR ANY GOD THEN THERE IS NO “WORD FROM GOD” IN ANY PLACE ON EARTH that can save it from non-existence. 

{ Stay with me here,THIS IS AN ATHEIST PARADISE I’M REVEALING HERE}
C. IF THERE ARE NO GODS, NO TRUE BIBLES AND WE ARE MERELY DELUDED INTO BELIEVING ALL THIS ….THEN LET’S LOOK AT THIS WITH PURE LOGIC, THE WORLD…THE UNIVERSE IS NOT IN THE HANDS OF A LOVING GOD, WE ARE DESCENDED FROM ANIMALS WITH ONLY EVOLVED INSTINCT TO SURVIVE WITH…THAT’S THE ATHEIST ALTERNATIVE TO GOD afterall.

1. IF THIS IS TRUE WHO DO YOU BLAME FOR ALL THE PROBLEMS in the World?

2. DO YOUR ARGUMENTS HOLD WATER IN YOUR WORLD ORDER OF THINGS without God to blame? After-all, now EVOLUTION must receive the only fair judgment upon itself for CAUSING the World's ills, or the only alternative would be a living God who has a PLAN FOR US ALL!

3. WHOSE FAULT ARE THE STARVING MILLIONS THEN if God is not there?

4. WHO CAUSES CANCER NOW if God is not there to blame? 

5. WHO CAUSES WARS, THAT HAVE KILLED MILLIONS NOW if God is not there to blame?

6.WHO OR WHAT GETS THE BLAME IF THERE IS AND NEVER WAS A GOD? You can rightly blame Religion as an affender but alas that INCLUDES Atheistic belief systems as well. The blame game is a losing game here, there's MORE than enough to go around!

I HOPE YOU CAN SEE THE PLAIN FOOLISHNESS OF THIS WOMAN’S ARGUMENTS BASED IN ONLY EMOTIONAL TOPICS LIKE HUNGER, WAR, MURDER.


The whole problem with what she is doing is made clear when the “SHOE IS ON THE OTHER FOOT.” You see..in order for atheist’s to attack us they must TAKE ALL THE WORLD’S WOE’S AND BLAME THEM ON GOD “
This is their Strawman ” TO DISTRACT FROM THE REAL ANSWER- Atheism causes all the things THEY BLAME GOD FOR, once they have removed God and gods from the picture! Be real here, the issues they blame God for are STILL PROBLEMS for Evolution without God or Religions gods.

And before someone out there says….
"Well, I just think that it is religion that has caused all this trouble in the world!”

If that is true then we are back at the same point we started at….WHERE AND HOW DID RELIGION BEGIN IF THERE NEVER WAS A GOD to start it?


A Layman's Guide to Why Are There So Many Christian Denominations?: Who started them? When? Why?

Saints Behaving Badly: The Cutthroats, Crooks, Trollops, Con Men, and Devil-Worshippers Who Became Saints

Soul Rape: Why People Hate Going to Church, Distrust Clergy, Avoid Religion, Keep Searching for God, and the Revolution They Started

How Fatima Started Islam: Mohammad's Daughter Tells It All

AFRICAN ORIGINS OF FREEMASONRY: Treatise of the Ancient Grand Lodge of Khamet

The ACLU vs. America: Exposing the Agenda to Redefine Moral Values

Babylon Mystery Religion, Ancient and Modern

The Secret Side of History; Mystery Babylon and the New World Order

The Two Babylons

The Babylon Connection?

Mystery Babylon (What the Bible Says)

Saddam's Mystery Babylon: Revealing the Hidden Agenda of the Most Sinister Entity in the Bible



Where did the idea of a “ONE True God” come from without any knowledge of Him? If we started out as Atheist’s in the beginning of time how did any knowledge of God get here!
This cannot be DISMISSED, YOU HAVE ONLY TWO CHOICES
- IT’S God’s fault and he exists after all,

OR
IT’S THE “UTOPIA OF MEN’S” FAULT AND GOD CANNOT BE BLAMED, BUT IN DISPROVING THE ONE YOU MUST ADMIT TO THE OTHER!


Talk about “Painting yourself into a corner!” MY POINT IS A GOOD ONE..IF ATHEIST’S USE THE BIBLE AGAINST GOD THEY ARE “CONCEDING” THAT HIS WORD IS TO BE OBEYED AND THEREFORE THAT HE EXISTS SO HE CAN BE BLAMED FOR ALL OUR PROBLEMS! Why can't an Atheist prove there is no God without using the Bible to do it? The answer is simple, they know the Bible contains the proof they seek so they must 'Muddy the Water' to hide the evidence from their followers plain sight!

But if they truly believe what they teach, that there is and CAN BE NO GOD CONTROLLING ALL THINGS……THEN THEY ARE LEFT WITH A DILEMMA – WHO TO BLAME FOR ALL MAN’S SCREW UP’S…THINK THEY WILL BLAME THEMSELVES?
I know they won’t!



I think the thing that STANDS OUT as the biggest DOUBLE STANDARD is the Atheist using THE BIBLE to disprove a NON-EXISTENT GOD and then turning around in the same essay and saying this:

“Suppose you were an omnipotent god, and you demand worship, such as the Christian God. 

Would you give proof of your existence to those who wished to follow you? I imagine for Jehovah that it would be quite simple to perform a continual sequence of verifiable miracles. It would be quite logical in practice too, for it would keep God’s followers from delusion and doubt. 



Personal Stories, Healing & Miracles






{ Its interesting that this women says she's read the bible, but missed the hundreds of times God did just that and they worshiped the Miracle instead of God....why is that? Because as Romans plainly states, 'they were constantly gaining knowledge about God but did not use that knowledge to gain WISDOM and thus increase their reasoning abilities.'}

There is no such luck with Jehovah though. He demands absolute fidelity without any demonstration of his existence. The only so called record of his existence is the bible. I think it pretty much goes with out saying that not only is the bible 2,000 years out dated, but it is also very unoriginal. 

{ IF this stupid comment were even the least bit true, there would be NO REASON for any debate from now on, but the truth is far different than the delusion she rants about emotionally here. She knows, as all Atheists know; that the Bible has SO MUCH EVIDENCE in its support from Science, Archeology and Literary Documentation that they have simply resorted to insult rather than debate the facts is a CLEAR issue!}

Any Christian who proposes that the bible is indeed evidence for God’s existence is proposing a double standard. For there are many books which claim to be actual accounts of a higher power. 

With this in mind, why not believe in Allah from the Koran? 

Could it be because your faith is what determines your belief and not your so called “factual” book?”

THIS IS THE SILLIEST ARGUMENT FOR AN ATHEIST TO MAKE….NOT ONLY DOES SHE HAVE ALL..NOT JUST SOME , BUT ALL HER FACTS MISPLACED

But the statement 'the bible is THE PROOF of God in written form' is a provable thing IF ONE IS TOTALLY HONEST with the facts and not covering their exposed false religion or philosophy! The Koran on the other hand is NOT the word of God and not a literary giant by any means as no other religious book is!

The Complete Infidel's Guide to the Koran

The Qur'an Translation

Is the Qur'an the Word of God?

Is The Qur'an God's Word? - A Scientific Approach

Is The Bible God's Word

God Almighty Speaks to You


You see within the seed of Faith given to each believer is ALL the proof of God needed to get saved. BUT you must first believe to release that proof to your soul! Thus Reason is needed to have Faith Work.



In the fist place, let’s give her the benefit of MUCH doubt. Let’s say she’s right, the bible is NOT the word of God..there is no God and no gods at all anywhere and without asking HOW IN A GODLESS WORLD MEN THOUGHT UP RELIGIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE?{ Oooppps! I asked!} 

Where does her questioning take her?

I’ll tell YOU to my NEW CHALLENGE TO ATHEIST’S, WHICH IS THIS: And this is a very valid point! 

Since there IS NO GOD AND RELIGION IS MAN-MADE, THE BIBLE INCLUDED- HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE UNIVERSAL PROBLEMS YOU BLAME ON GOD SO EMOTIONALLY TO PROVE GOD IS INCOMPETENT-DOESN’T THAT MEAN THAT IF THERE NEVER WAS A GOD TO BLAME….

 ATHEIST’S WERE IN CHARGE ALL ALONG WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPENED, IN FACT YOUR STILL IN CHARGE SO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT......stop the wars, stop the poverty, stop the sin loose in the world today.....DO IT, OR GET OUT OF THE WAY! 

So much for the Atheist Answer and Utopia, if you can't do HIS job stop stating you can, you don't have the answers by using a system of belief that CAUSES more troubles in the world than it solves!